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Shoe Hacker: Nike+iPod Sport Kit Shoe Mod

July 14th, 2006 by Podophile

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When the Nike+iPod Sport Kit was announced, I was really excited about being able to track my running progress with my iPod nano. I was not excited, however, by the thought of having to switch to Nike running shoes to use it. The notch that’s cut into Nike’s new shoes for the transmitter is a brilliant idea, but I don’t want to sacrifice the support and comfort I get from my trusty Saucony Hurricanes. Since the Sport Kit transmitter is just an accelerometer, I figured there had to be an easy way to attach it to my shoe laces.

Well, my Nike+iPod kit arrived yesterday and without wasting any time, I tucked the transmitter under my laces and jumped on the treadmill. Everything seemed to work just fine, and the transmitter hardly shifted during my 10 minute trial run. But I knew that If I wanted to run outdoors for long distances, I’d need to come up with a more secure solution.

After 17 seconds of brainstorming, it hit me: Velcro. This morning I dug through my wife’s sewing kit and found a strip of velcro with adhesive backing, a needle and some thread.

First, I placed the transmitter under my laces near the toe and marked the position that I wanted to attach the transmitter, making sure it was underneath a cross in the lace.

Nike+iPod Shoe Hack

I then cut a small piece of velcro and attached the “hard” side to the back of the transmitter, being careful not to cover the sleep button.

Nike+iPod Shoe Hack 2

Next, I stuck the “soft” side of the velcro onto the tongue of my shoe where I had previously marked.

Nike+iPod Shoe Hack 3

Using the needle and thread, I sewed a few stitches through the velcro and the tongue of my shoe, securing them together. It can be tricky to push the needle through the layers of fabric and the velcro’s adhesive, be careful. Six to eight stitches should do.

Nike+iPod Shoe Hack 4

Lastly, I attached the transmitter to the shoe and laced it back up.

Nike+iPod Shoe Hack 5

The whole process took about 10 minutes (including taking the pictures) and doesn’t permanently damage the shoe.

Early results seem to indicate that having the transmitter under the laces rather than inside the shoe does not affect the accuracy of the device, but I’ll run some tests over the weekend. EDIT: My results are posted here.

Update Sunday, July 16, 2006:
Several people across the Interweb have suggested that I’ll come home from a run one day to discover that my transmitter is gone, having fallen out of my shoe along the route. There are two reasons why I’m not so worried:

1) I’ve run a total of 15 miles over three days and the transmitter is still securely stuck to my shoe. If you apply the velcro properly and make sure that it is tucked under your laces, you should have no problems.

2) If the transmitter does fall out of your shoe while you’re running, the iPod nano will stop recording any activity. After two minutes, the voice will announce “Activity stopped. Press the center button to resume your workout.” If I ever hear this announcement while I’m running, I’ll check my shoe. If the transmitter is gone, I know it’s exactly two minutes behind me.

Now, if the transmitter falls out and gets stuck to a piece of gum on another runner’s shoe, I guess I’m S.O.L.

Update Sunday, July 25, 2006:
I’ve posted some additional tips here to help you make sure that you don’t inadvertently lose your transmitter when using the Nike+iPod kit with your own running shoes.

Update Saturday, December 30, 2006:
I’m happy to report that after 5 months, I’m still running with the sensor attached to my shoe as described above. No problems. But since I first posted this, several commercial products designed for attaching the sensor to your shoe have been introduced. Be sure to take a look at my Nike+iPod Shoe Hack and Sensor Accessory Round-Up to see the most popular ones. I’ve also written a Nike+iPod FAQ to help answer other general questions about the Sport Kit. Here’s wishing you many happy miles in 2007.

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220 Responses to “Shoe Hacker: Nike+iPod Sport Kit Shoe Mod”

on 14 Jul 2006 at 7:13 pm SharkDrive

Podophile, Thanks so much for posting this. I went to 5 different locations trying to find the “special” nike shoes that the transmitter fits in. No one has them yet, and most didn’t even know what it was….lol.

I have been wondering if it would work without the shoes, now i know it can. Please post your results as you continue to test this.

thanks.

shark
on 14 Jul 2006 at 8:42 pm motherduce

Nice idea, keep us posted on your results. I need new shoes anyway, so I may still go for the Nikes, but maybe not…
on 15 Jul 2006 at 3:43 am Chris Eidhof

Nice! I’m about to buy new shoes and I was hoping that the sensor would work on other brands too. Cool :)
on 15 Jul 2006 at 7:14 am Kevin

Hahaha, nice one!
on 15 Jul 2006 at 8:55 am Rich Akerboom

Anyone have any idea what kind of accelerometer is in there? Can it track motion in 3d?
on 15 Jul 2006 at 9:24 am Dan Heringer

I was curious about the same thing for my wife. Thank’s for the post. One quick question … does anyone know if it will work with iPODs other than the nano? All of the literature says nano, but I’d rather not have to buy one just for this.
on 15 Jul 2006 at 10:36 am Podophile

Dan - The Nike+iPod Sport Kit only works with the nano at this time. One reason for this is that the full-sized iPods use a hard drive, which tend to lock up when shaken or jostled too much (as it would be when jogging). The nano uses flash memory, which has no moving parts, and is better suited for exercise.

When you plug the Nike+ dongle into a regular iPod, you get the message “The currently attached accessory is not supported by this iPod.”
on 15 Jul 2006 at 6:15 pm paul

Thanks, I really liked your hack and I immediately went to Amazon to place an order for one. It was only afterwards that I read that it only works with the Nano. I was able to cancel the order. Thanks, maybe I’ll try this after I get a Nano.
on 15 Jul 2006 at 6:47 pm Podophile

Paul - I know it sucks… but you really don’t want to do a lot of running with a hard drive based mp3 player (though I used to do it on occasion with no real problems). Thanks for reading. I hope there’s a nano in your future…
on 15 Jul 2006 at 8:56 pm test

Thanks mr. podophile!!!!
on 15 Jul 2006 at 9:05 pm Peter Garner

Thanks for this experiment in the interest of podscience! If I had a Nano, I might just go out and buy one of these gizmo’s. Alas, the Nano in our family is my wife’s…
on 15 Jul 2006 at 9:32 pm Nicolas

Too bad they don’t stil make the Kangaroos shoes… On a personal note,I just ducted taped mine to a pair of Chuck Taylor’s, and the use of the treadmill really helps to assure proper calibration!
on 15 Jul 2006 at 9:40 pm fuzz

‘Roos still exist! Been seeing them at Elder Beerman for the ladies. Not sure about the men…

Podophile — how big is the transmitter? Will it fit in the ‘Roos “pouch”?
on 15 Jul 2006 at 9:41 pm posidian

I know shaking the drives isn’t the best idea, but I ran with my 4g iPod for a year and a half with no problems, and now run with my 60gb video iPod. I wish this worked with other 5g iPods, because I’m not going to buy a nano just for running.
on 15 Jul 2006 at 10:00 pm Dan

This “not good to run with a hard based player” is BS with the iPod.. Yes, It does have a hard drive but It also has a 64mb internal flash memory which is used to store the current song your playing, and stores around 6-7+ other songs that will be played after that. The Hard drive in the iPod only moves if you change a song manually or if it needs to store the next 6-7+ songs. And when I jog/exercise/ride bikes I usually listen to a playlist, so the iPod’s hard drive is rarely moving(And if it does its only for a few seconds). Also, The iPods hard drive is not nearly as weak as your thinking. The iPod uses a large size drive(Its much larger then Microdrive’s that other brand hard-mp3-players use)and is Much stronger and shock resistant then a Micro-drive… The only reason I can think they would do this is because the Nano is smaller, Hawter and APPLE wants to conquer the Flash-Based-Mp3 market even more.
on 15 Jul 2006 at 10:25 pm Podophile

“This â€œnot good to run with a hard based playerâ€ is BS with the iPod..”

Dan, my 5th gen iPod has locked up a couple of times while jogging with it. Not really a big deal, just needs a hard reset. But unless you want to stop running while the hard drive is spinning, it’s going to happen from time to time. I don’t disagree about Apple wanting to push their flash players, but I think they also don’t want to deal with thousands of complaints about iPods freezing and the public backlash that might result.
on 15 Jul 2006 at 10:40 pm Michael

Great tip. I’m afraid the transmitter part that attaches to the Nano will make the Nano not fit in a lot of the cases/armbands out there, such as the Marware one I have. Of course I’m sure it will fit fine with the Nike+ case/armband …
on 15 Jul 2006 at 11:31 pm Michael

From the prospective of a podiatrist, I can tell you that Nike’s shoes are crap. Go with New Balance, Brooks, or Saucony, and get fitted at a real shoe store.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 12:36 am mark

ipods suck and nikee is even worse!

[Juvenile comments deleted by moderator. Please play nice.]
on 16 Jul 2006 at 12:47 am Philoman

mark, I do no know what your frustration is with iPods and Nike but to me you may have a bigger personal problem than the possible problematic social structure that may exist.

I’m not sticking up for anyone, but a sad disturbed feeling I get by reading your post.

Be gentle and you will be appreciated and thus may lead to a more happier life. Cheers.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 2:56 am tristan

nice hack!
have to disagree about running with a regular iPod though, I have a 5G ipod which I have been running with, almost daily, for 6 months with no problems.
It would be good if apple were to introduce the Nike kit to the normal iPods as I don’t really want to buy a nano just for running!
but then I might have to….
the best thing of course is that you have figured out how to make this work with non-Nike shoes. Any serious runner wouldn’t be using Nike shoes anyway.
keep us all informed of the test results!
on 16 Jul 2006 at 5:02 am Johnny Appleseed

Sure, the HD iPods have a cache, but I suspect the Nike pedometer requires the iPod to be constantly recording data, which would mean the HD would be constantly spinning, increasing the likelihood of a problem.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 6:14 am Andrew

This is just an effort by Apple to sell even MORE of the popular nano. Everyone knows that the nano is just a ripoff (4GB and 1000 songs, $249 or 30GB, 7500 songs, video, $299). All you need to do for a 30GB is save up 50 more bucks than the nano. It’s that easy, and I’m sure that someday there will b a hack or something that will let the Nike thing work with any iPod with DC.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 7:27 am neofactor

Apple/Sony should sell these with a hole through the center to pass you laces. Or a MOD attacjment that allows this.

I was wondering if it hurt to run with that pressing on your instep?!

I was just going to take cut a hole in my shoe (from the inside) under the arch liner… to just tuck it in there.. but was worried about the changes to the arch or heal strike issues.

Thoughts?
on 16 Jul 2006 at 7:35 am Alan

Dan - There is suppose to be an firmware upgrade for the ipod video so it will work as well.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 8:17 am Scott

My take on the jogging with HD iPod debate: it probably depends on your running style. I had a 3G iPod for almost two years, and an iPod Photo for over a year now, and neither has ever locked up on me while jogging. I’m annoyed I have to buy a Nano to use this, but Johnny Appleseed poses an interesting theory about why the Nano’s required.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 8:25 am Dave

I wonder why the Nike+iPod Sport Kit doesn’t work with the Ipod Shuffle too. It uses flash memory as well, so no moving parts to damage. Maybe its just to small?
on 16 Jul 2006 at 8:36 am Podophile

The Shuffle doesn’t have a dock connector. The Sport kit has 2 parts: a transmitter and a receiver. The transmitter goes on (or in) your shoe, and the receiver plugs into the dock connector of your iPod nano.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 8:43 am Dan M.

The shuffle isn’t supported because it’s too cheap. You can see everyone complaining how it doesn’t work with their “full-sized” iPods, but some are considering picking up a nano mostly for this purpose. If the half-as-expensive shuffle could be used instead, then Apple’s ploy of making this nano-exclusive to boost revenue wouldn’t be so successful.

Either that or a lack of the dock connector…
on 16 Jul 2006 at 8:47 am brian

#30 - I cut a hole in the tongue of my shoe under the laces and tucked the transmitter in there and there was no discomfort at all. I did keep the laces right over the transmitter slightly looser than usual.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 10:57 am Uncle Foobar

As an Apple stockholder i have to suggest:

Please stop bitching about the Nano and just go buy one!

You’re children,dog and wife will love you more if you do.

Foob
on 16 Jul 2006 at 12:44 pm video owner wanting a nano

Tristan said “Any serious runner wouldnâ€™t be using Nike shoes anyway.”

Ahh…the great Nike/New Balance/Sacouny/addidas/Reebok/Asics flame war - second only in scorching power to the M$/Apple flame-fest. It’s kind of funny how these personal preferences become religon. I for one hated Nike because they were so narrow in the toe box I couldn’t wear them. At least until the Shox and the Triax came out - before that I always wore NB or Asics. Then again, I wasn’t a serious runner. My dad (marathoner) and brother (100+ mi/wk state champion XC) were and loved Nike’s b/c they had a narrow toe box. For all you non-runners reading this thread, beware - the flames that accompany shoe disscussions (esp Nike) are dangerous.

I hope someone finds a way to set the 5g to do this or better yet a 5g Cateye/Shimano package or mod for cycling. Ditch the cylce computer for pleasant audio voice…..
on 16 Jul 2006 at 2:13 pm DrRocket

Does anyone know if this sensor will work for things other than jogging? Will it still work on an elliptical machine or similar non-impact device?
on 16 Jul 2006 at 6:10 pm Jay Soffian

I also used Velcro, in a slightly different fashion:

http://web.mac.com/jaysoffian/iWeb/Site/Asics%20+%20iPod.html

I’ve run 21 miles with it so far and it isn’t going anywhere, at least not while my foot is in the shoe. You’re solution is probably more secure when the shoe is footless. :-)

j.
on 16 Jul 2006 at 8:36 pm Afrosheen

Running with HD-based iPods aren’t good and I could vouch the death of my 4th gen. iPod for this very reason as it died after I ran with it on the elliptical machine. Each time I tried to turn it on I heard a couple of clicks inside my iPod then it would shut off. Now, I did get a 60 gig Video iPod as a replacement, but I’m not gonna risk having to go through that again by running with it (and I used an iPod sleeve no less). I’m good to get the nano for this purpose ’cause it would stupid to spend money for a Nike+iPod kit and then have it kill another one of my iPods again.

DrRocket also asked this but I’m also wondering whether this kit would work if I were to be running on the treadmill, ’cause already as a basketball referee I do a lot of impact running and it would be insanely stupid to put more impact on my knees just to track my running.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 1:31 am yablog

YEs ! nice idea to fix this podometer transmitter this way.. But, the nike shoes are also very nice but did they are well concepted for the runnin’ with the max comfort possible ?
on 17 Jul 2006 at 6:33 am Sally

Why couldn’t you put the chip in a money pouch on your shoe? Would the movement mess up the transmission?
on 17 Jul 2006 at 7:32 am Adam Pratt

I did two runs this weekend with the Nike kit and non-Nike shoes. I secured the sensor with packing tape to my laces. A few observations:

1. It’s difficult to control the buttons on the Nano in an arm band on a sunny day while I’m running, etc. It works, but it’s a bit awkward.

2. It only works with the Nano. Maybe Apple will change that in the future, but that’s how it is now.

3. Be careful about putting the sensor UNDER your shoelaces. Depending on your shoe, foot mechanics, and so on you might end up with some nasty pain on the top of your foot.

4. I run a lot (18 miles yesterday) and I don’t think I’ll trust a $30 sensor to a little piece of velcro. Lots of jarring, lots of dust, dirt, sweat, etc. and one unexpected slip and this thing is gonna be lost in the woods, under a truck tire, or something. I’m not trying to dis the idea, but I don’t think it’s gonna work for most folks.

I need to find a way to SECURELY attach the sensor to the TOP of my laces.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 7:57 am DJG

Nathan makes a small pocket that secures to the top of your shoe with a reflective velcro strap. It’s very secure and based on what I’ve read here should work perfectly.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 8:06 am Cheesehead Dave

It’s probably a matter of time before someone markets a small pouch the size of the transmitter with slots to thread your laces through to eliminate the chances of it coming off.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 8:24 am Sally

Dave…see post #51
on 17 Jul 2006 at 8:41 am Evil Inside

I can see KangaROOS making a strong comeback thanks to apple.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 9:00 am Doug

In the 80s I had a “shoe pocket” that was just that…a small pocket that had a strap under the laces, you could put in your house key, money, etc…the transmitter would fit just fine…I no longer have this, if I did , I would consider making them as an addon…
on 17 Jul 2006 at 10:01 am Les avocado

Otherwise another idea would be to stitch the pouch to the tongue of the shoe. or if you’re brave, unstitch the tongue inert device and sew tongue back up. put shoe on find comfortable area for device to be laced around mark with pen. add additional stitches above and below to keep device in place.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 10:02 am Les avocado

otherwise you could also use it with an ankle bracelet akin to the shuffle strap and velcro around ankle.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 10:59 am bill parker

I don’t recall the option of NOT getting the Nike Shoes. It’s all in one package, you have to buy the
shoes to get the device. I appreciate your post, and I like my running shoes as well. But we all paid for the
shoes, we might as well use em…But hey, aren’t they the ugliest nike shoes you ever saw?
on 17 Jul 2006 at 11:03 am STU

thanks for the great write up.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 11:12 am Podophile

“I donâ€™t recall the option of NOT getting the Nike Shoes. Itâ€™s all in one package, you have to buy the shoes to get the device.”

You can buy the kit seperately for $29.00. Check Apple.com or Amazon.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 11:30 am Podophile

Adam wrote:
“I run a lot (18 miles yesterday) and I donâ€™t think Iâ€™ll trust a $30 sensor to a little piece of velcro. Lots of jarring, lots of dust, dirt, sweat, etc. and one unexpected slip and this thing is gonna be lost in the woods, under a truck tire, or something. Iâ€™m not trying to dis the idea, but I donâ€™t think itâ€™s gonna work for most folks.”

Adam - Velcro is surprisingly strong. If you’re worried about dirt and moisture, put the transmitter in a little bag (See my “Waterproofing” post). And if the transmitter ever does fall out of your shoe, after two minutes the iPod voice will say “Activity has stopped…” Just turn around and run back for two minutes.

I don’t expect that this will be perfect for everyone… I’m just glad that some people are finding it useful. As for me, I didn’t want to spend $10+ for a pouch to protect a $29 device, and I didn’t want to cut or ‘Dremel’ (gasp) my shoe. So far, I’m happy with the results.

Thanks for visiting.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 2:57 pm Candace

hey… thanks for the hack - this is so perfect. I run a lot and when I first heard this was coming out i was stoked, however, I didn’t want to be
‘forced’to purchase Nike shoes. I will look into the shoe money holder along with the velcro option. BTW, for those that couldn’t find the shoes
and/or kit - I was at Dick’s Sporting Goods today and they have a huge display there. please keep us update on your progresses… this is such a good
idea by Apple & Nike. One more thing - I love the Nike Armband holder - it’s a lot than the other sport bands out there.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 3:49 pm Phil

I would check out PUMA shoes…because they are good for soccer (Italia) but on running to. Their website also propose training exercise formatMP3
on 17 Jul 2006 at 7:31 pm jthomas

just got the nike+ipod today. i have the 2006 airmax 360 and all i did was just slide it into the side of the shoe. i dont feel anything. works fine and stays in place. did the calibration earlier and went for a 2 mile run. very accurate i must say.
on 17 Jul 2006 at 7:34 pm Ian

I just thought since this velco idea seems to work would it not also be very easy just to sew a little pouch on one of the tongues in much the same manner?
on 17 Jul 2006 at 8:26 pm Ben

How accuratly does this record your run?
on 17 Jul 2006 at 8:56 pm Podophile

Hi Ben -

My test results were posted here
on 17 Jul 2006 at 10:39 pm microChasm

Has anyone tried the transmitter with a pair of those socks with the zippered pouch on them to stash a key or ID?

I would think its kept fairly dry and protected. I don’t know what kind of geometry it needs as far as recording movement.
on 18 Jul 2006 at 1:08 pm Steve Boyett (dj steveboy)

Great little article! I just got my wife one of these for her birthday, & will definitely be trying your mod out.
I put together a music-mix podcast for runners called Podrunner you might want to check out; it should be a great match for
your Nike sport kit. Its one-hour, fixed-bpm mixes (there are currently 20 at different bpms) with no breaks. It’s on
iTunes or my website at http://www.djsteveboy.com. Take care!
on 23 Jul 2006 at 1:47 pm Patrick

Today I went for a run with the transmitter in the same location as podophile’s and without velcro and it worked fine didn’t even move.
on 24 Jul 2006 at 9:37 pm Eve

WARNING: be careful out there and make sure your sensor is securely fastened to your shoe. i was so excited to take my sensor on my first run that i did not do a very good job attaching it. it seemed secure and stayed put for about 20 minutes, and then halfway through my run it got lost in the woods :-( i was very disappointed and thought this was the coolest running gadget ever until i lost it. if anyone has this sports kit and has decided they don’t want it anymore let me know and maybe i can buy just the sensor off you. i’m reluctant to buy a whole new kit again…
on 24 Jul 2006 at 10:17 pm Podophile

Sorry to hear about your loss, Eve.

Everybody, please make sure your transmitter is tightly secured with VELCRO, and take a test run to make sure it stays on. I’ve been reading reports of people trying to run with it just tucked under their laces… not a good idea. I’ve used mine as I described in the article above for almost 40 miles over 10 days and it hasn’t moved.

Also remember, if you lose your transmitter, after 2 minutes you’ll get a warning that activity has stopped. Just turn around and run back 2 minutes and start looking… you should be close to where your transmitter is.
on 27 Jul 2006 at 1:05 pm Ulf Hednar

Has anybody attached the xmit to a bicycle wheel and substited the distance of one turn of the wheel for a stride?

That would work? right?
on 29 Jul 2006 at 7:42 am Joe

Here is my attempt hope it helps.

http://homepage.mac.com/nustar1/PhotoAlbum3.html

Nike + iPod - Nike

Installing the Nike + iPod Sensor in a Case Logic JDSL2 USB Drive Shuttle for use with non-Nike shoes

Purchased at Target for $9.99
on 30 Jul 2006 at 9:33 pm kangarool

Can anyone post a quick “layman’s terms” explanation of how a sensor like this works? I am wondering if understanding that might suggest how/where I can stash the sensor in other, non-Nike shoes. For example, in my Fila Flow Reckoning running shoes, the bottom in-sole (right terminology? the bit that my heel actually touches) thing isn’t permanently attached to the shoes … it can be lifted/removed, so I wonder if merely slipping the sensor under that would work (but then don’t know how thick the sensor is, would it be like running with a small pebble underfoot?). What does the sensor actually “sense”? Thanks for any info …
on 30 Jul 2006 at 11:30 pm Podophile

Kanga - The transmitter is nearly one quarter of an inch thick (6mm), and one and one quarter inches long (3cm). So it would be like running with a large pebble in your shoe.

The transmitter is an accelerometer. As you might guess, it measures the acceleration of your foot, which can be used to calculate the length of your stride and your speed. As for how the circuitry actually works, I have no idea. There’s a Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerometer which may shed some light.

I haven’t tested to see if the accelerometer works when not positioned horizontally (like maybe tucked in my sock)… I might give that a try tomorrow.
on 31 Jul 2006 at 4:30 pm hunntnplay

cool site, and cool advice. I really like this idea, but i still feel that keeping it under the lace is kinda irritating. I tried just keeping it under the lace, and it fell when i was running/walking 3 to 4 times, luckily, i saw it everytime, and found it. but the tip that Joe gave here wtih the ipod shuffle case is awesome, seems like a good idea, and is very much secure just like the shoe wallet. so, will try out, first need to find out if they have it in target.
on 31 Jul 2006 at 5:04 pm Podophile

Hunntnplay - Thanks for the comments. But seriously, the idea here is NOT to just stick the transmitter under your laces. Of course it will fall out. The method I describe is to attach VELCRO to your shoe and to the transmitter. There are actually pictures of how to do that in my original article. It is completely secure and hasn’t fallen off in over two weeks of use.

The whole point of my shoe mod was to find a way to use the Sport Kit without having to spend any money on additional stuff to get it to work. If you’d rather buy an extra case, or a shoe wallet, or the $100 Nike+ shoes I’m sure it will work just fine… but it won’t work any better than the method I’ve described above.
on 31 Jul 2006 at 5:23 pm hunntnplay

true, i agree your method works great. i was just saying that in my case,the laces are not as close together as your shoe,like the shoe laces keep them in tight, but for people whose laces are slightly spread apart, even if the sensor has a velcro, and another velcro is attached to the tongue of the shoe, if the sensor comes out of the covering laces, there are high chances of it falling out, velcros are not that strong. But in ur case, ur shoe has a good lace system.
on 03 Aug 2006 at 10:41 am chris

Does this thing work with an iPod mini as well?
on 03 Aug 2006 at 10:07 pm Margie

I have nothing against Nike, but I gotta run in my Asics due to fit issues (need the bigger toebox), so I loved this hack. I got my Nano and Nike kit last week for my birthday. I modified the hack by using a ripper (like an exacto knife) on the tongue of the shoe to separate the Asics “netting” from the fabric underneath, creating a kangaroo-like pouch. Tucked the sensor in, sewed a few quick stitches, relaced, and voila. Worked like a charm. I calibrated it and tested it at a local high school track, and 400 meters is being called 400 meters, over and over. Love it! Thanks!
on 04 Aug 2006 at 11:30 am Podophile

hunntnplay - Check out my recent post about alternate ways to lace your shoes:
http://podophile.com/2006/08/04/31-different-ways-to-lace-your-shoes/

Chris- The Nike+iPod Sport Kit only works with the nano at this time.

Margie - Glad you’re having success with your Asics+iPod!
on 04 Aug 2006 at 5:54 pm SDBryan

This was a great write-up and I was all over the Sports Kit the day I saw this published. I just published a pretty good write-up of my experiences with iPod Nano with Sports Kit along with using the Nikeplus.com website. Of course this article is referenced several times since it was my inspiration. I even copied your picture. Nice job being the alpha tester for a whole new generation of runners :)

Check it out: http://barkallday.blogspot.com/2006/08/nikeipod-sports-kit-shoe-hack-review.html
on 06 Aug 2006 at 12:12 pm drshockley

I have never liked Nike shoes and have a fairly new pair of Asics GT2110s but wanted this gadget badly enough to purchase a pair. After two runs in them I developed blisters on both feet. I decided to modify my Asics to allow the sensor to fit in the sole like in the Nike shoes. This was easily accomplished by tracing the outline of the sensor and removing the portion of the attached foam insole with a Dremel tool carbide bit. My initial concern was that it would change the performance of the shoes somehow, but after four runs with the modified shoes, I haven’t noticed much of a difference. I took back the Nikes and got some Asics Kayanos, which will be modified shortly.
on 07 Aug 2006 at 3:54 pm AsicsLover

Podophile,
How did it go with the shoe wallet? This is what I intend to use, and I’m curious what kind of results you got. I haven’t purchased the sensor yet, because I know there is no way I’ll ever buy Nike’s. I like to rotate between 2 pairs of shoes so I’d like an easy way to switch the sensors between shoes, The shoe wallet seems like the easiest way to go. And I already have an extra wallet to use.
on 07 Aug 2006 at 4:33 pm Podophile

My review of the Nike shoe wallet is here…
http://podophile.com/2006/07/30/nike-running-shoe-wallet-with-the-nike_ipod-sport-kit/
on 08 Aug 2006 at 6:25 pm Jim

HELP NEEDED… thank you very much for this article. It has helped me tremendously. My quick story: knew I needed one of these as soon as it came out… shared the same issue with others, in that I was a Saucony diehard and didn’t want to buy Nike shoes to get it to work… was thrilled to see the podophile do it yourself… used my own method of cutting a small slice in the back of the tongue, and then sliding the transmitter all the way down to the bottom, so it sat on top of my foot, basically in the exact same spot as podophile’s velcro, but *inside* the tongue so I wouldn’t lose it. laced ‘em up tight and that sucker wasn’t moving.

MY PROBLEM… jumped around in my apartment, it worked, I was thrilled… went to the gym and ran a mile on the treadmill to calibrate, it worked, i was thrilled… went to parents house in boston for the weekend, went on treadmill at the gym, and it didn’t work right; figured it had to do with sensor overload in the gym?… next day, ran on trails near my parent’s house, it worked for 2-3 miles/15-20 minutes, and then the voice came on and sid ‘activity stopped’, as if i had stopped running although i had not. i hit continue, but from there, the time continues, but your pace and mileage stops. very frustrating. ended workout and started process again, but it did the same thing a few minutes later. very frustrating… went to the beach this weekend and ran 8 long miles, pace, powersong, distance, calories, perfect. flawless! I was thrilled… next day, went for 30 minute run, after 2.1 miles, same “activity stopped” message, then reoccuring every few minutes after resetting, now very annoyed…. today in central park, works flawless for 20 minutes/2.5 miles, then the same error message. Keep in mind the sensor has been in the exact same location, and it is not moving. I’ve tried unplugging and putting it back in, checking for dust, etc.

Has anyone had this issue? Why would it work fine some days but not others? Hopefully this is simply a defective chip that I can return and get a good one, but I’m concerned that the hack isn’t foolproof. But it’s a techie’s worst nightmare… a bug that can’t be replicated. Help!
on 08 Aug 2006 at 9:13 pm Podophile

Jim - The only thing I can really suggest is to try your transmitter on the outside of your shoe (like my original shoe mod) and see if you get more consistent results. If you don’t, I’d say that your kit may be faulty. I don’t know what else to say… mine has been working fine.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
on 11 Aug 2006 at 11:45 am James

Thanks for the advice on your site. It gave me the confidence to perform open tongue surgery on my Adidas trainers, and after sewing up the wound that baby’s not going anywhere! Just hope it doesn’t pack up after the fine needlework job I did. Cheers!
on 14 Aug 2006 at 7:16 am Derek Mc

Ive found an easier way.
All you need to do is remove the insert from your trainer and cut a nano shaped hole in it.
BUT make sure you cut it in the middle at the arch, any further back and it will be crushed by your heel, any further forward and it will be crushed by the ball of your foot. As there is very little force exerted by the foot at the arch, the receiver will be fine. This is where you will find it in the Nike+ shoes for that very reason.
I can post pics if you need.
Good Luck
on 17 Aug 2006 at 10:25 am Podophile

re: Derek: Iâ€™m glad to hear that youâ€™re having success with your own shoe mod. However, I donâ€™t necessarily agree that cutting hole in your shoeâ€™s structural padding is easier than sticking a piece of velcro on the tongue. I also donâ€™t believe that anyone who owns a serious pair of running shoes should risk damaging them by doing that. The performance of the Sport Kit is not improved by having the sensor under your foot.

Thanks for your comments.
on 20 Aug 2006 at 2:11 pm Jim

JIM UPDATE FROM 8/8/2006 POST: Problem solved
As you recall, I was getting frustrating, inconsistent performance from my ipod sensor when using it within the tongue of my Saucony Hurricanes. I was encouraged slightly the last time I tried to do it and the iPod was having trouble even DETECTING the sensor, so I was really hoping I had a defective unit.

UPDATE: I returned my sensor kit to Super Runners’ Shop here in NYC for a new one, and went out on a 6 mile run a few days later. Sure enough, it worked flawlessly. I just went to the beach and did a 30 minute run on Friday and 20 minute run on Saturday and both worked to perfection.

CONCLUSION: As long as I don’t have any issues with this new unit, I am willing to give Nike/Ipod a free one-time pass on this lemon for this brand new product. I now thoroughly recommend the “in tongue” method, and look forward to running and tracking my progress more than ever. I’m doing a 1/2 marathon in a week, and plan to use the 13 mile setting and create a really cool playlist. Can’t wait.
on 22 Aug 2006 at 8:56 pm kangarool

Hi again Podophile, OK, finally got my nike+ ipod kit: the sensor and receiver. Haven’t stitched it up and run yet, but will the first chance I get. They haven’t been released by apple yet, here in Australia, so had mine shipped over from the States. My tangentially related question is: what do you do about the armband thing? I have the original Nano armband, with just one small hole at bottom for the headphone to go into. But there’s no hole in the armband for the receiver to jack into the nano. And I can’t turn it upside down in the sleeve (well I could but then couldn’t see the ipod display screen.) Any podophilia hacks for this? Don’t want to spend another $29 on the new official nike+ipod armband, but worse, don’t want to have to wait for it to be shipped to me from the USA. Has anyone cut a slit in the bottom of the old-school armband, so that you can jack in the receiver, but also so the ipod still is secure inside the sleeve?
on 29 Aug 2006 at 4:21 pm pkitty

Um just did a quick scan of the responses and I didn\’t see this mentioned-it\’s a wee chip shaped velcro thingy made just for the Nike/Nano chip made by Marware for $10. They\’re out of stock (in pre-orders!), but I put my order in anyway. Seems perfect because you can easily transfer this to any athletic shoe that you wear.
on 29 Aug 2006 at 4:28 pm Podophile

I wrote about the Marware pouch here:
http://podophile.com/2006/08/07/new-marware-pouch-for-nikeipod-sensor/

There is no reason to believe it will work any better than the shoe mod described above, or the $8 Nike Shoe Wallet.
on 29 Aug 2006 at 10:10 pm pkitty

Oops! Saw that as I was perusing the rest of your site. Call me a lazy beeyotch then-I already wear 1 shoe wallet for my keys & $, wearing 2 seems…extreme.

Great site, btw.
on 31 Aug 2006 at 11:59 am WNfan

has anyone stopped to think that these broad sweeping comments about one brand being better shoe for running than another are ill-informed? most every brand has a range of shoes that support different needs; width, cushioning, durability, pronation, etc.
There was actually a podiatrist who claimed that all Nike’s suck. Really? I don’t run in Nike’s, although I’ve heard the Nike Frees are admired by runners nd doctors alike, but if I recall, we’re all talking about something smart they’ve done with Apple to make running more enjoyable for all of us, and they don’t force you to buy their shoes to enjoy it. To me, that’s pretty cool.
on 04 Sep 2006 at 10:46 am Bob Pritchard

Double sided velcro works great folded over the bottom two laces (along with a little velcro patch sewn on the tongue of the shoe).
I’ve also cut a slit in the bottom of my old school arm band. I wear the nano upside-down because it’s easier to read…no problems with slippage.
on 07 Sep 2006 at 2:20 pm Tammy

Thanks for this…My Philips MP3 Player finally quit working, so I had to buy a Nano…and my MP3 player recorded workouts and times, so I was missing those functions pretty badly…Now the other thing…I refuse to buy Nike shoes to run in…I’m a Brooks girl. So, I’m very thankful you posted this!!! Now I can have my Nano with workout info and my perfect running shoes!!
on 18 Sep 2006 at 9:10 pm Anonymous

Hi! This is a great little mod that I plan on using in the near future, but there is one thing that is a little unclear to me.

1) Do you turn your sensor off everyday after your workout?
on 21 Sep 2006 at 6:11 am cm

I have just bought the Nike+IPod sports kit based on the great information on this page. I didn’t want to have to buy a new pair of trainers. Anyway, to make it waterproof I just put mine into a small balloon and then tied the end to the tab bit on the tongue where you thread your laces through (you could probably just tie it to the laces). You then simply put the balloon behind the laces just as described in the mod on this page. It seems to work although I haven’t yet tested the accuracy.
on 21 Sep 2006 at 5:13 pm Favio

Thank you so much for running the tests for those of us considering a Nike pedometer/pacer. Question, do we need a iPod nano or can we use a video iPod?
on 29 Sep 2006 at 9:34 pm Susan

CaseLogic usb drive neoprene holder at Office Depot is the perfect thing to get for $3.95.
It’ll flip over your laces and protects the sensor, plus gives you an extra pouch to hold the nano sensor.
Take it off and it has a clip on the end so you can hang it up until you’re ready to use it.

None of these nutty modifications necessary and it holds the sensor perfectly in place.
Look for it at Office Depot. It’s called USB Drive Case Logic Rip & Burn and comes in a variety of colors.
on 11 Oct 2006 at 3:55 pm Mary

Thanks so much for this wonderful solution. I bought the nike+, and then tucked the sensor under my insole, which was just stupid! Then I went and tried on the Nike + shoes and none of them worked for me. I purchased a good pair of Brooks, and a shoe pouch. Loved the shoes and hated the shoe pouch. Then I found this velcro thing and it has worked great. Thanks for your innovation! I have had no problem with the velcro attachement. I love the Nike + Nano. Love it, Love it, Love it.
on 30 Oct 2006 at 6:34 pm Nikki

With the Nike+ iPod only just being released in Australia… I’ve only just found this blog. Looks like I may as well include custom-sized Velcro patches into my stock?

Well done on the work around. Cheers
on 01 Nov 2006 at 4:24 pm Phil

Podophile,

Major kudos for your creativity in resisting Nike’s propoganda. I’ve been an avid Asics runner for years and was also discouraged at the thought of having to don Nikes just to use the Nike+ iPod sensor.

I’ve been happily using your velcro workaround for the past 2 months until just over a week ago when to my horror the sensor flew off my shoe during my 13-miler! I wasn’t able to retrieve the sensor and barely mustered the will to finish the run due to my disappointment.

When I got home, I took a look at my shoe to investigate why the sensor came loose. Turns out that the adhesive holding the velcro to the sensor had completely lost it’s adhesiveness….BASTARD!!!

So to all those who’ve been using Podophile’s velcro option, it’s prudent that you periodicially check to make sure that the adhesive sticking the velcro to the sensor is still secure otherwise you run the risk of having to throw down another $30 for another sport kit like I did!

In addition to the new sport kit, I also went ahead and purchased Marware’s sport suit to prevent this tragedy from happening again. I’ve only had the sport suit for my last 2 runs but it’s been absolutely fantastic! The sensor fits in very snugly to the pouch and the pocket is very securely fastened to the laces. Major thumbs up to Marware for the pouch despite the rather steep price.
on 03 Nov 2006 at 7:26 pm Sheila

Hi,
I just bought this product, think it is great.
It bothers me that people dog nike so much. If you know anything about Human Anatomy you would know that brand does not matter at all. Each person needs to have their foot biomechanically analyzed and needs to find the shoe that supports their foot best. Nike might be that shoe for some people. I have done many races and have always found nikes to be the best fit.
Sorry that is an off note, but people need to be more informed before they dis brands.
on 13 Nov 2006 at 2:23 pm ivan

iÂ´ll love to use this… but do i need to buy a NANO…. i just a 5.5G ipod…. does any one…knows how i can use… this on a big ipod……..tanks !!!
on 17 Nov 2006 at 3:13 pm Satchie

Podophile: according to the people at marware.com, the sensor should be facing down for proper readings, have you tried this way? any difference? thanx i.a.
on 27 Nov 2006 at 1:30 pm Dub

I just took a dremmel and bored out the inside of my shoe just where the nike shoes had thier inplant.

Easy and secure.
on 27 Nov 2006 at 1:35 pm Podophile

I’m not sure there are too many people interested in taking a Dremel to their $100+ running shoes… but I’m glad to hear it’s working for you.
on 27 Nov 2006 at 1:38 pm Podophile

Satchie - You’ve misunderstood the instructions. You place the sensor into the pouch face down, but when it’s folded over your laces it will be face up.
on 02 Dec 2006 at 4:27 pm Wide Feet

I have wide feet, 4E. To the best of my knowledge Nike doesn’t make a 4E. Is this my only option to get the Nike + Ipod?
on 02 Dec 2006 at 4:39 pm Podophile

Wide Feet - There are several “shoe hacks” and accessories designed to attach the Nike+iPod sensor to your shoe. I’ve posted a list of them.
on 26 Dec 2006 at 3:39 am oli

Try extending the piece of velcro on the sensor so that a hole can be punched threw and a shoelace poked for more protection.
on 27 Dec 2006 at 10:46 am Racheal King

I have the shoes and the running device but I have a regular Ipod. I was hoping I did not need a Nano to be able to use it. Any news on apple making it compatible with a regular Ipod?
on 27 Dec 2006 at 11:25 am Podophile

Racheal - Sorry, you’re out of luck. The Sport Kit only works with the iPod nano, and I’d be surprised if that changes any time soon.

Feel free to check out my Nike+iPod FAQ. I’ll keep it updated with all the latest information.
http://podophile.com/nike-ipod-faq/
on 01 Jan 2007 at 8:27 pm cory

dude no way i hate the way big corporations are trying to get money out of all of us thanks for enlightening me on the secret of not required NIKE+ shoes for the NIKE+ sport kit, now i need to find mine.
on 02 Jan 2007 at 2:54 am Max

Thanks for the great info. Your posts convinced me to buy the kit (which I wouldn’t have done if I had to buy the shoes, so Nike owe you one =) ).
I didn’t have any velcro but came up with a solution that works just as well.
http://blog.aoteatech.com/?p=32
on 10 Jan 2007 at 12:54 am David

Sweet article, thank you!

After careful consideration for my DIY skills and reading your About section I decided that as Shoepouch Advertise with you (hence keep the site running!) the only decent thing to do was to buy one off them ;-)

Now all I need pointing to is all your Nike running logs.. that way when my pouch and kit arrive I can catch you all up ;-P

Great site, thank you.
on 17 Jan 2007 at 8:18 pm Rick

i have a v3i witch is the razr with itunes it is a flash player does it work with nike + or not because i want to use that but dont want to buy a nano
on 25 Jan 2007 at 11:11 pm Harold

I have had a 20gb Ipod form the beginning and I know firsthand that running with the hard disk based ipods does cause them to lock up. Of course it only takes a hard reset to get it back online but it’s very distracting during a run to have the music stop.
on 31 Jan 2007 at 10:10 pm Allan

Is this not another one of the keep fit gadgets that will cost a lot and after a few weeks sit in the cupboard for ever.
on 31 Jan 2007 at 10:25 pm Podophile

Allan: The Sport Kit costs $30. Anyone who considers it an expensive keep fit gadget probably shouldn’t buy it in the first place.
on 08 Feb 2007 at 12:24 pm Rocko

You are a STAR my friend!!!
Cheers for all that!!!
on 12 Feb 2007 at 3:11 pm Jason

Does anyone know if the nike +sport will work if the transmitter is pointed toward your head. I have an older armband that will not facilitate the transmitter if I close the case. However, if I leave the case open and essentially place the ipod in upside down (receptical for transmitter facing toward my head), I can fit the transmitter. Has anyone tried this/know if you can get an accurate reading doing this?
on 12 Feb 2007 at 4:02 pm Podophile

Jason-

Just to be clear: The transmitter (or sensor) is the part that goes in your shoe. The receiver is the part that attaches to the iPod. And yes, the receiver works just fine upside-down, “pointed at your head.”

Hope this helps.
on 13 Feb 2007 at 7:20 am Jason

Thanks for the info on the receiver. Good to know that it will work that way. Thanks again for all of the help.
on 22 Feb 2007 at 11:46 am Mandi

I just got a sports kit for my anniversary and am really excited to see that you posted all this info for people like me who already like the running shoes they have, Saucony, and didn’t want to shell out $100 for Nike shoes I wouldn’t really like. I’m going to go for your velcro method I think and see how it goes. Thanks again!
on 01 Mar 2007 at 10:31 am hip

thanks for the info
on 10 Mar 2007 at 9:07 pm Cory

Podophile, I’m curious if you’ve done any tests with a combination of running and walking? I ran/walked 5.54 miles according to Gmaps, but the Ipod indicated that I had run 5.91 miles. I was hoping for just a little bit more accuracy since there’s a calibration for both walking and running. I have performed both calibrations. Anyway, cheers to you for the tests and I was just curious if you knew if they could or plan to push a firmware update for the ipod to be more accurate when using a combination of speeds.
on 03 Apr 2007 at 11:24 am Mary

Does excessive traveling affect the performance/accuracy of the transmitter and receiver? I have a friend who is on the road 3 weeks of the year, traveling between Asia, Europe, US, and between North and South Hemispheres. While the device worked fine initially, it is now consistenly not picking up data and extremely inaccurate. He ran an hour (10 miles) the other day, and it recorded the time interval correctly, but it says he only ran 3 miles.

Any advice?
on 05 Apr 2007 at 6:17 am morganusvitus

The site looks great ! Thanks for all your help ( past, present and future !)
on 16 May 2007 at 2:31 pm Paul

I’ve just attempted something similar by cutting a section from an old racing bike inner-tube, squeezing the sensor inside and cutting notches above and below to slip the laces through. Seems to work a treat.
on 20 May 2007 at 6:00 pm wayne

Great post, I’ve been using the marware pouch for about a year and I have seen some inaccurate information latly going to try your technique.

thanks
on 24 May 2007 at 3:25 am hazZzad

Hi there,

I just bought the sensor and thought about another hack. The toungue of the most sport shoes are made of two layers - so I opened the upper part where they are connected, with a cutter and …. there it is - my perfect bag for the sensor! I can shift the sensor to the front of the tongue so it’s not in the way and it can not fall out because my bootlace keeps it down.

… have to leave for a test now …… :o))
on 24 May 2007 at 5:55 am hazZzad

Hi,

it’s me again back from my first run withe the new equipment and my pimped shoes….:o)

And it worked - no complains at all … I think I’m addicted already…. too late …. :o)))
on 25 May 2007 at 6:59 pm Martin

Hi, im Martin from Argentina.
I’m reading your tests about how accuarry it’s your mod, and you say that you’ve tried the kit by driving your car!
So, this might be disappointing but, without having to look for a how-does-a-podometer-works-webpage i can guees that if i put the sensor in my pocket (or maybe in a tightly place) it could work as well right?

Sorry if there are some bad-written words or wrong expressions

I’ve to find some hack for the iPod Video!!!!
on 24 Jun 2007 at 10:25 pm drew

instead of hacking your shoes, maybe someone should try hacking some easier and cheaper.. like a wristband or something. maybe cut it to make a hole and slip the nike plus thing in there.. then just sew it back up and just slide in on whenever you go run..

i thought i would try this, but i have the nike shoes so i really don’t need to do it.. i rather spend the 10 mins getting more nike miles. :P
on 26 Jun 2007 at 7:30 am Husain

Hello Podophile

Very nice stuff you have going on here! Kudos to you.

Do you know how long the transmitter will work before the battery runs out (seeing as it is not rechargable)?

This article was posted nearly a year ago, so it’d be nice to know how many transmitters you’ve had to buy/replace and if any of them have been faulty.

Thanks!
on 03 Jul 2007 at 7:40 am Patrick Ray

I had been using the velcro attachment method with success for some time but when I had to replace my kit (I misplaced the sensor) things started to go bad. First up was a problem with my Nano when I updated the kit, after a few runs it wouldnt locate the sensor and eventually it cause an error on my iPod so I had it replaced because it was still within warranty. Now it can locate the sensor but shortly into the run I get a message that “activity has stopped, to resume press the center button” so I press the center button and it resumes but at a 0:00 pace and within a minute or two the activity stopped continues again and it keeps repeating.

Any suggestions?
on 20 Jul 2007 at 4:10 pm Deviation

For those that keep worrying about the elements affecting your sensor, see http://forums.nike.com/thread.jspa?threadID=101&tstart=0

It’s sealed & waterproof. ;)

Good couple of write ups. Got me thinking.
on 31 Jul 2007 at 6:33 am Chad

FYI

I’ve got 3,200+ miles of running over a year and a half on my 5G iPod without one single instance of it locking up on a run.
on 27 Aug 2007 at 4:38 pm Anna

Interesting article

I am not in the position to pass a comment on “online purchasing”. Because I am in the initial stage, that is I have done very few purchases online. couple of days back
I ordered “Nike Little Flight Ball (TD)” from shoedeals4u.com and experience was nice, with on time delivery and with good customer support. Anyways keep updating your blog. I really appreciate it.
on 26 Jan 2008 at 11:22 am Lucy

I refuse to buy an iPod Nano. Let’s start a petition for Apple to create the Nike+ for regular iPods..
on 03 Feb 2008 at 10:13 pm Podophile

Lucy: Resistance is futile!
on 08 Feb 2008 at 5:56 am Hans

Thanks for the great info. Your posts convinced me to buy the kit (which I wouldn’t have done if I had to buy the shoes, so Nike owe you one
on 15 Mar 2008 at 3:16 am Halo
on 06 Apr 2008 at 6:22 pm Nike Shoes Freak

awesome post, and although i love my nikes, i don’t usually usually use nikes for running…i have asics for running, and this looks like a proper solution. Thanks for the info and i may have to go out and snatch one up now.
on 15 Apr 2008 at 8:40 pm terry

If I buy one of these can more than one person use it….i.e can I use to track my running, and then can I give it to my Mrs and she can use it track hers? Or will it just assume we are the same person?
on 16 Apr 2008 at 2:12 pm Madi

About the Nike+, I have Nikes but I don’t like to run long distances in them. I like to run in my Brooks. So you think that I can velcro the chip to my Brooks? Please respond before I buy it!! Yikes!
on 16 Apr 2008 at 7:59 pm terry

I bought a purpose nmade pouch that attaches the laces…may have cost me a few more $$$ than doing it myself but saves the messing about!
on 17 Apr 2008 at 1:00 pm Madi

I really hope that works. I think I’m going to try to run in my Nikes to see if I like to run in them. If not, I will do something to my brooks! Thanks for the tip!
on 21 Apr 2008 at 2:49 pm Madi

I need to know! Please right back!
on 22 Apr 2008 at 4:38 pm Madi

My next question is for Podophile. I was wondering if you knew that a regular iPod nano works instead of just a nano video. I kinda need to know because winter is over and I have some “winter fat” to burn off for my soccer team.